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replacement for ADHD meds
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(05-02-2013, 12:44 PM)Tripmystic Wrote:
(05-02-2013, 11:12 AM)stefox Wrote: i really would mate, but its not very nice living with someone going through amphetamine withdrawl, and they are moody as hell, just hoping to help, ill get him on 500mgs of caffiene for the time being and see if it helps anything. hopefully i can find a tempoary measure untill he can get to a specialist

I think your friend is having it on a bit. If your friend is taking his medication exactly as prescribed, the only negative side effect he should experience once he runs out of meds is the return of his ADHD symptoms.

Do you know how your friends diagnosis/treatment was being handled?
NHS Clinic w/ private scripts
NHS Clinic + GP Shared Care w/ NHS scripts
Private

Regardless of which of the above is applicable for his case, he should be able to simply contact them and explain the situation and get a new script.

(Source: I have ADHD.)

(05-02-2013, 12:06 PM)mesmerised Wrote: I wouldn't use it as a replacement for Ritalin though as I said before. Still better you know the information etc...
Your advice still applies regardless, but he's not on Ritalin.
Ritalin = Methylphenidate
Dexedrine = Dexamfetamine

i have no idea how his scripts were sorted out, all i know was he came from ireland where he was getting them, came to the uk a couple of months ago, signed on with a gp a week ago, had his appointment the other day, got a letter saying he needed a psyc eveluation before he could get the medication, i dont know if ireland is covered by the NHS republic not northern ireland. and im not sure if its withdrawl but he is a totally different person without some form of stimulant, he's moody, lazy and eats a lot, kind of like me on akb48f but thats a different story.


but thank you everyone who has replied you have been a big help, ill be sending him to the gp first thing tomorrow morning, theyre closed today for some arbitary reason, probably snow, you get one flake of snow and the uk grinds to a halt ffs, ill update if anything turns up, in the mean time i have ordered a pack of gellcaps and 10g of caffiene, worst comes to the worst ill make him some 500mg caps of caffiene and tell him its amphetamine, see if a placebo effect works.
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#12
Ahhh, he should really have sorted this out as soon as he arrived.
Depending on where in the UK you live, the waiting list for NHS ADHD Clinics can range from days to months. The current waiting list for my clinic is between 12-18 months.

I'm afraid there is not going to be any magical solution here. Any stimulant taken in small amounts will help with the ADHD, but he'd have to have amazing willpower not to overdo it and just get high.
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(05-02-2013, 12:58 PM)Tripmystic Wrote: Ahhh, he should really have sorted this out as soon as he arrived.
Depending on where in the UK you live, the waiting list for NHS ADHD Clinics can range from days to months. The current waiting list for my clinic is between 12-18 months.

I'm afraid there is not going to be any magical solution here. Any stimulant taken in small amounts will help with the ADHD, but he'd have to have amazing willpower not to overdo it and just get high.

he will have no choice in the matter, i will be keeping all RC's under lock and key, was just hoping for a temp solution, but 500mg of caffiene seems to be the best bet, ill just tell him its a rc analog of what he was on before.

many thanks for all the help guys, its just annoying that he has no motivation to do anything but stay in bed, well i hope i can change that


once again, many thanks, you guys have been ace
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#14
Since methylphenidate is prescribed for ADHD, ethylphenidate might be an OK replacement. As noted by tripmystic it is not recommended to treat medical conditions with RC's, it can turn into massive overuse which can made legit treatment nigh on impossible
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(05-02-2013, 01:10 PM)stefox Wrote: he will have no choice in the matter, i will be keeping all RC's under lock and key, was just hoping for a temp solution, but 500mg of caffiene seems to be the best bet, ill just tell him its a rc analog of what he was on before.
many thanks for all the help guys, its just annoying that he has no motivation to do anything but stay in bed, well i hope i can change that
once again, many thanks, you guys have been ace


hahahahah. I really think he's just being a bit of a drama lama and exaggerating it to be far worse than it is. Is not an uncommon trait of ADHD.

I'd be willing to bet that if you give him a capsule of caffeine and tell him it's an RC, he'll perk right up.
Obviously the caffeine won't help nearly as much with the real ADHD symptoms as proper meds or even an RC stim, but I bet it'll get him out of bed and at least willing to try going through his day without proper meds.
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(05-02-2013, 12:06 PM)mesmerised Wrote: I wouldn't use it as a replacement for Ritalin though as I said before. Still better you know the information etc...
Quote:Your advice still applies regardless, but he's not on Ritalin.
Ritalin = Methylphenidate
Dexedrine = Dexamfetamine

Thanks I know the difference but should read the thread more closely next time before responding. One of those weeks so far it seems for me.

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(05-02-2013, 01:19 PM)Tripmystic Wrote:
(05-02-2013, 01:10 PM)stefox Wrote: he will have no choice in the matter, i will be keeping all RC's under lock and key, was just hoping for a temp solution, but 500mg of caffiene seems to be the best bet, ill just tell him its a rc analog of what he was on before.
many thanks for all the help guys, its just annoying that he has no motivation to do anything but stay in bed, well i hope i can change that
once again, many thanks, you guys have been ace


hahahahah. I really think he's just being a bit of a drama lama and exaggerating it to be far worse than it is. Is not an uncommon trait of ADHD.

I'd be willing to bet that if you give him a capsule of caffeine and tell him it's an RC, he'll perk right up.
Obviously the caffeine won't help nearly as much with the real ADHD symptoms as proper meds or even an RC stim, but I bet it'll get him out of bed and at least willing to try going through his day without proper meds.

thats what im hoping to be honest, a placebo can be a powerful thing, he is really against putting anything up his nose/ vaping/ smoking any rc so it will be a gelcap with a mix of caffeine and icing sugar, will have to see how we go.

once again, many thanks all added positive rep to the first few posts, ill rep the rest of you in the morning, thank you
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Wouldnt advise replacing any prescribed medication with a research chemical tbh.
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#19
I have a bad case of ADHD and have been on Strattera, Ritalin and Dexedrine. The latter two work. Caffeine doesn't work in my experience. Ethylphenidate can be converted into methylphenidate via acid catalysed transesterification. I'm new to RCs I haven't experimented much with finding one that works for ADHD. I tried AMT but it doesn't work for me. Everyone is different though.
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