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bk-2C-B experiences/TRs
#31
Well, you can probably take silat's disappointment of its psych properties as a good guide.

It has typical visual psych features (morphing, trails, colour enhancement), but we're not talking an ayahuasca-style life-changing experience :D

The psych angle is mainly background at ~100mg - it's there, but pretty mild (for me!). Even at higher doses the stim and entact is still front and center, but the Psych is ramped up a bit (along with duration).

It's psychedelic - but in the candyfloss way at good doses :) Doesn't really start getting very funky until 150mgish - even then, if it was a deep trip I wanted I wouldn't use this :)
"It is simply this: do not tire, never lose interest, never grow indifferent—lose your invaluable curiosity and you let yourself die. It's as simple as that" Tove Jansson
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#32
Thanks Mela, sounds like a good one to start off with, will be sure to give this a go once available.
Last question what do you mean by entact?
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#33
Entactogenic :)

And it is stunningly so (which it appears Silat didn't like).
"It is simply this: do not tire, never lose interest, never grow indifferent—lose your invaluable curiosity and you let yourself die. It's as simple as that" Tove Jansson
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#34
How entactogenic are we talking? Running around hugging people like the mother of entactogens or more of a psychedelic connection?
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#35
Mela, Would you be able to describe any differences between this and AL-LAD? I notice you talk about moving corridors being hard to navigate. I found that on low doses of AL-LAD (single tabs.)

Was walking like a cyberman from 1980s Doctor Who episodes with knees that I didn't dare to bend on that stuff. lol. Was thinking maybe with that hitting me so hard I might try this stuff at 75mg or maybe even less if it is anywhere near that.
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#36
That was a rockin combo night, so not bk-2c-b alone...

AL-LAD @ 150mcg gives me little more than a bit of visual shimmer :/

(06-10-2013, 05:57 PM)mela Wrote: but we're not talking an ayahuasca-style life-changing experience :D

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#37
A good entactogen would be great - I wasn't sure if Silat was expecting more or just didn't get quite what you got off it since you found it so euphoric
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#38
Well, I took that he didn't like the rushy tingletasticness - the troll-hair, tactile, physical bodygasmic excitement angle of it.

I think the silly empathogen/entactogen stuff from the Nichols angle is pretty useless. So I tend to use empathogen when I'm expressing emotion/feelings outwards and entactogenic inwards (makes more sense to me - touched within...). During the 150mg experience - just an ickle-tickle and I may have exploded in bliss :|

A bit like the Louie episode where his dad explains sex to him (and not in the typical birdie-bees style), lol.
"It is simply this: do not tire, never lose interest, never grow indifferent—lose your invaluable curiosity and you let yourself die. It's as simple as that" Tove Jansson
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#39
(16-10-2013, 09:03 AM)mela Wrote: AL-LAD @ 150mcg gives me little more than a bit of visual shimmer :/

Ouch. Think I'll go in low then. Single AL-LAD with zero tolerance was really strong for me. lol

Many thanks for the reply.
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#40
this seems to be going mainstream soon.
its parent compound was notorious in its intense body load in non club situations (read anxiety issues)
how does this compare?
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