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RCs and nootropics: a male thing?
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Whenever I look at the net and look for some clips about RCs or nootropics one thing is noticable: 95% of the time it are men. Doing this. Very few times do I see the opposite seks. When  I do. it is a doctor who warns and fears and says we need to do this and that. We should not take risks...

Is that the clue again. Are females in general much more directed at preventing harm whereas we men are more risktakers? Or are we more interested in boosting our brains?

My complaint on society, well at least in Nl is that it is becoming way too feminine for my taste. I love females, I can't take my eyes of some of their parts when well developped. I respect them etc. But I completely dislike this "do not take risks" kind of message I'm constantly getting from them is boring. So is this also the reason why females are not so much into nootropics and RCs or is this whole observation wrong?
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#2
Too busy making us men our tea

Before the negs thats obvs sarcasm

I see what your trying to say and agree that females do seem to be under represented in at least the noots world, maybe their heads justwork better. I wouldnt say so in the RC community though we have plenty of female members both openly and id imagine many of which dont feel the need to state their gender.

But to state that as a whole females take less risks or harm avoidance or and im paraphrasing here are less adversed to the unknown, well i think you might get a little slack for that. There wil be pleanty of pioneering female mountain climbers, cavers, storm chasers etc so i think your wrong on that point but weather or not they are underrepresented in the RC world. Would be debatable.

If blod or rent or another mod were to release some forum statistics on the % of genders that have signed up here we would have a slightly clearer picture but againthats only a small subsection of people who use RC while also going online and discussing and learning about them. I would susspect a male dominance in number but that means that females arent doing research chems just as much as much as theyre doing loads and simply dont learn about them
  
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(18-03-2016, 06:07 PM)J.S. Wrote: Whenever I look at the net and look for some clips about RCs or nootropics one thing is noticable: 95% of the time it are men. Doing this. Very few times do I see the opposite seks. When  I do. it is a doctor who warns and fears and says we need to do this and that. We should not take risks...

Is that the clue again. Are females in general much more directed at preventing harm whereas we men are more risktakers? Or are we more interested in boosting our brains?

My complaint on society, well at least in Nl is that it is becoming way too feminine for my taste. I love females, I can't take my eyes of some of their parts when well developped. I respect them etc. But I completely dislike this "do not take risks" kind of message I'm constantly getting from them is boring. So is this also the reason why females are not so much into nootropics and RCs or is this whole observation wrong?

According to the statistics, the gender split is about 2:1 men to women for NPS. Women are less likely to disclose their gender online. There are different social pressures on men and women which probably feeds into how individuals perceive and evaluate risk, but it's unlikely to be so simple as men are risktakers and women are not, more that women who take risks are judged more harshly than men who do the same.

By the way, objectifying women in the same breath as you declare your respect for them is unlikely to help women feel comfortable in disclosing their gender. I would guess that most women who could have something to add to the conversation would prefer to be valued for the perspectives they bring to the table, their knowledge and how the articulate their experience, rather than the fact they have secondary sexual characteristics that you may find aesthetcially pleasing.
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(18-03-2016, 10:14 PM)niflheim Wrote:
(18-03-2016, 06:07 PM)J.S. Wrote: Whenever I look at the net and look for some clips about RCs or nootropics one thing is noticable: 95% of the time it are men. Doing this. Very few times do I see the opposite seks. When  I do. it is a doctor who warns and fears and says we need to do this and that. We should not take risks...

Is that the clue again. Are females in general much more directed at preventing harm whereas we men are more risktakers? Or are we more interested in boosting our brains?

My complaint on society, well at least in Nl is that it is becoming way too feminine for my taste. I love females, I can't take my eyes of some of their parts when well developped. I respect them etc. But I completely dislike this "do not take risks" kind of message I'm constantly getting from them is boring. So is this also the reason why females are not so much into nootropics and RCs or is this whole observation wrong?

According to the statistics, the gender split is about 2:1 men to women for NPS. Women are less likely to disclose their gender online. There are different social pressures on men and women which probably feeds into how individuals perceive and evaluate risk, but it's unlikely to be so simple as men are risktakers and women are not, more that women who take risks are judged more harshly than men who do the same.

By the way, objectifying women in the same breath as you declare your respect for them is unlikely to help women feel comfortable in disclosing their gender. I would guess that most women who could have something to add to the conversation would prefer to be valued for the perspectives they bring to the table, their knowledge and how the articulate their experience,  rather than the fact they have secondary sexual characteristics that you may find aesthetcially pleasing.

First part agreed.

Second part. All that is sure is that you cannot be respectful while noting or focussing on so called "secondary sexual characteristics", since you seem to exclude the option that these two can go together well. People, men and women are multifaceted with many sides.
I can happily take women and what they say serious, converse or debate with them just like I do with men. In fact this subject is one I have talked about with women many times. I am straightforward. But physical attraction and focus does not exclude the other views at all.

But indeed I love these Roxy Music lines from Ladytron:
I find some,
way of connection.
Hiding my intention,
Then I move up close too you....
I'll use you
I'll confuse you
Then I'll lose you
Still you won't suspect me...

If the attraction is purely physical that is how I am. I spot female contours really from 100s metres away, my eyes lock in on boobs in miliseconds. It is not what I want them to do, they do. And I need no one to be like me to simply accept me as I am, but indeed all my  friends and male collegues are like that. And surely we talk about women without a single bit of respect, how we would do them. And we laugh hard, that we are all having this onedimensional view and we accept it as being males. Even a Jehovah witness has trouble with it. He is constantly smiling and tells us "but I am not supposed to be like that!" He is a walking conflict when it comes to women and the problem is: women really like him physically. May be they are just being disrepectful! I will tell him that. We all know that we men hate to be objectifyed by women so I am sure it will help.....
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(18-03-2016, 11:37 PM)J.S. Wrote: I spot female contours really from 100s metres away, my eyes lock in on boobs in miliseconds. It is not what I want them to do, they do. And I need no one to be like me to simply accept me as I am, but indeed all my  friends and male collegues are like that. And surely we talk about women without a single bit of respect, how we would do them. And we laugh hard, that we are all having this onedimensional view and we accept it as being males..

I ,as a male, am in no way offended b this statement we all is what we is no point fighting ourselves but i myself do not do those things, to be perfectly honest i take dislike when the banter turns to 'bending he over the...' To be male doesnt endue us all to those prerequisites, Thats just your kind of male.
  
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(19-03-2016, 12:04 AM)Borderline Wrote:
(18-03-2016, 11:37 PM)J.S. Wrote: I spot female contours really from 100s metres away, my eyes lock in on boobs in miliseconds. It is not what I want them to do, they do. And I need no one to be like me to simply accept me as I am, but indeed all my  friends and male collegues are like that. And surely we talk about women without a single bit of respect, how we would do them. And we laugh hard, that we are all having this onedimensional view and we accept it as being males..

I ,as a male, am in no way offended b this statement we all is what we is no point fighting ourselves but i myself do not do those things, to be perfectly honest i take dislike when the banter turns to 'bending he over the...' To be male doesnt endue us all to those prerequisites, Thats just your kind of male.

Again: if it only would be me than it only would be me and I would be fine with me being me. But this for 100% is not only me. It is the majority of men I know. It is why there is a debate whether men and women can be just friends. They can't in general and it is not because of the women. It is because in general our brains are wired like that.

What is the most downloaded thing on the net......Porn. Now....how much more "objectifying" you want it to get....

For fun, to keep it light...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_lh5fR4DMA
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The majority of men you know. A limited sample of a limited sample with your innate preferences. I swore i wasn't gonna post in this again but debate amongst whom? the writers at ladbible? I have a fairly gray scale of female friends ones i would never think about about nailing and those i have and will again. Im far from a typical bloke anyone will tell you that but still a male.
  
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(19-03-2016, 12:22 AM)Borderline Wrote: The majority of men you know. A limited sample of a limited sample with your innate preferences. I swore i wasn't gonna post in this again but debate amongst whom? the writers at ladbible? I have a fairly gray scale of female friends ones i would never think about about nailing and those i have and will again. Im far from a typical bloke anyone will tell you that but still a male.

Eh no....my collegues are not my friends and even all assume I think the same. And I walk in the lunchbreak with a guy that is extreme rightwing whereas I am leftwing. He seriously could use a load of pyrazolam, he constantly hyperventilates as opposed to me (I even got him some etizolam and phenibut since he asked but he was too afraid to try...), he is simply a complete opposite. We have the same humor and we talk about women the same way.
The Jehovah witness is seriously a Jehobvah witness. He seriously is in conflict with himself and what his cultish beliefs tells him and it mostly is about women which he finds irresistable. Even after phonecall with a female customer he smiles "Yeas..she liked me!" hahaha....
Then another collegue, still not a friend at all and a completely different person (the more typical academic). We went to the David Bowie Museum in  Groningen together because we share the same musictaste. And yes in the museum we both noted the same beautiful women.

My friends indeed are the same.
My managers: went for dinner on wednesday even with two females collegues and we openly discussed which of our female collegues we would do and the women (one being a 100% Muslima) simply had zero problems with it. Wondered how we looked and we simply explained both how it works. And they had no problem. They went to dinner (7 of the same department) because we get along so well as accountmanagers. No one cares, they understand perfectly fine (in NL at least....) that males tend to be far more physical. And we had good arguments with our coworkers, fun, respect (I like them a lot) etc.

So no...Wherever I go. Wherever I work. my friends form age 6 which are still the same decades later all share this. I am convinced any guy not having this very physical attraction to beautiful women is the exception. At least in NL where I live. But also random guys I met in Tialy and Portugal and had some drinks with (sure in summer near the beach). It was automatically so that when a beautiful girl went by we all had the same explicit comments about her (not that she could hear it).

What planet do you live on? I am not sarcastic. I am seriously baffled that you  actually think it is just me.

Can you explain why Porn is so popular? And why porn is clearly focussed at men (at least that porn) and even for my taste beyond belief how disrespectful it is towards the women. It is not exactly geared to women, don't you think. And it is the  most popular thing out there. Why oh why is that? Because that is a part of us too. We are not ONLY that. Surely not. But men (and women too, it is not BW) tend to have this part in them. And that part AFAIK is dictated by a 10 fold level of testosteron.

http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/f...-like-porn

A quote: "Stambaugh points to evolution. Men's brains, he says, are hard-wired for easy arousal, so that men are ready for sex whenever opportunity knocks -- a propagation-of-the-species thing. With online porn so readily at hand, vicarious opportunities -- cue the mirror neurons -- are ever present."

And I am the exception. May be you live in a culture where it is not accepted to be open about how you think and who you are cause here in NL it is no problem whatsoever nor a females somehow amazed by men being hunters and easily deceived if the females like to....Seriously my coworkers just wondered what we saw in the women we fancied (facebook pics were shown of sexy collegues). None of them, even not the very religious Muslima, was somehow disturbed at all....


I wonder still why and if females are less into nootrpocis and RCs...
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Oh i far from think its just you, Its likly you fit the mode average majority. Im just stating as i did at the start whilst all females are far from similar as are all males, vis a vi risk taking behaviours RCs opinions etc
  
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(18-03-2016, 06:07 PM)J.S. Wrote: Whenever I look at the net and look for some clips about RCs or nootropics one thing is noticable: 95% of the time it are men. Doing this. Very few times do I see the opposite seks. When  I do. it is a doctor who warns and fears and says we need to do this and that. We should not take risks...

Is that the clue again. Are females in general much more directed at preventing harm whereas we men are more risktakers? Or are we more interested in boosting our brains?

My complaint on society, well at least in Nl is that it is becoming way too feminine for my taste. I love females, I can't take my eyes of some of their parts when well developped. I respect them etc. But I completely dislike this "do not take risks" kind of message I'm constantly getting from them is boring. So is this also the reason why females are not so much into nootropics and RCs or is this whole observation wrong?

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