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Phenibut
#21
(04-02-2013, 09:37 AM)dark_knight Wrote: I am planning to use once a week for a treat. As it works on Gabba receptors its not a good idea to mix with Benzo's or alcohol, I wonder if it will cause cross tolerance with Etizolam?

Unlikely as Phenibut acts on GABAb receptors while Etizolam acts on GABAa receptors. Don't mix with alcohol or benzos.
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#22
Ah! Thanks for the info guys, I will take it easy and not mix anything with it.
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#23
I tried it a few times this weekend.

Day 1 500mgx4, over the course of the whole day. Not much effect but slightly better and confident mood, kept nodding off.

Day 2 1500mg then 10g kratom an hour later. Went out for a meal and had a few drinks (maybe 10-15 units). I was pretty hammered at the end. Generally I was feeling pretty good throughout but I'm sure the kratom was contributing and the phenibut was subtle. Hangover not that bad.

Day 3 2000mg. Again a pretty mellow day, and the phenibut was still very subtle (though I may have developed a tolerance by now). Appetite was up, had the horn a bit, and again slept very easily. I didn't have any feeling of intoxication.

Now for a few days off. Next time I will take more, probably 2g followed by another gram an hour later. Overall it isn't as potent as expected, though I've now read a few more reports where people are reporting having to take 5-10 grams to get there (not that I'm intending to do this). I think it'd be good for going out and socialising, and as a sleepaid, but not so good for getting mashed.
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#24
(04-02-2013, 05:57 PM)SteveBrule44 Wrote: I tried it a few times this weekend.

Day 1 500mgx4, over the course of the whole day. Not much effect but slightly better and confident mood, kept nodding off.

Day 2 1500mg then 10g kratom an hour later. Went out for a meal and had a few drinks (maybe 10-15 units). I was pretty hammered at the end. Generally I was feeling pretty good throughout but I'm sure the kratom was contributing and the phenibut was subtle. Hangover not that bad.

Day 3 2000mg. Again a pretty mellow day, and the phenibut was still very subtle (though I may have developed a tolerance by now). Appetite was up, had the horn a bit, and again slept very easily. I didn't have any feeling of intoxication.

Now for a few days off. Next time I will take more, probably 2g followed by another gram an hour later. Overall it isn't as potent as expected, though I've now read a few more reports where people are reporting having to take 5-10 grams to get there (not that I'm intending to do this). I think it'd be good for going out and socialising, and as a sleepaid, but not so good for getting mashed.

I honestly think that if there was a way to get mashed on this we would have known about it years ago,and it wouldn't be so cheap. Just a thought. ;)
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#25
tbh it sounds like a decent alternative to benzos

I heard it's great for anxiety and it's pretty long lasting

I'd probably only take it after a stressful day or when anxiety might become an issue

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#26
I dont really want it to get mashed on, I dont even find benzos like that. Something with Benzo like effect that will help me relax and get good sleep seems perfect to me.

Mine was sent out first class yesterday....come on Royal Mail, just for once be on time!!!! I could really do with a treat today!
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#27
(05-02-2013, 09:18 AM)dark_knight Wrote: I dont really want it to get mashed on, I dont even find benzos like that. Something with Benzo like effect that will help me relax and get good sleep seems perfect to me.

Mine was sent out first class yesterday....come on Royal Mail, just for once be on time!!!! I could really do with a treat today!

I agree. I actually use etizolam very rarely when I have a peak of anxiety,and have the most awful insomnia (I get up at 2am) and nothing does it for me for more than a couple of days,so I live with it and treat myself now and again to a decent nights sleep. I think varying reduces the risk of an addiction to a specific substance,as well as long breaks now and again. I have only ever been addicted to alcohol,nicotine and caffeine so far not heard any suggestion of those being banned as yet. If phenibut does the trick then I think I'll opt for that now and again.
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#28
Wahoo got them! Will be testing tonight!
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#29
(05-02-2013, 12:49 PM)dark_knight Wrote: Wahoo got them! Will be testing tonight!

Hahaha.... I'm looking forward to testing my 3,4-CTMP tomorrow ... I'm awake anyway,may as well try and enjoy it ;) thumbup
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#30
Curious how the other campers are getting along with this? So far I've found it great for sleep but not so noticeable otherwise. I haven't used it in a high anxiety situation so can't comment on the anxiolytic effect yet. However I have gone up to 3 grams and tbh it felt weaker than two etilaams in terms of the effects on my consciousness. Despite this I find myself craving to try again, which may be it's addictive quality making itself known.
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