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DIY nasal irrigation (post insufflation)
#1
Much has been written on the subject of nasal irrigation, not a common practice in the Western world but a regular part of Yogic hygiene, aka jala neti. Indeed, a whole variety of commercial products (neti pots, and sachets of concentrates for irrigation solutions, is big business both online and at your local pharmacy. We would recommend considering nasal irrigation as sensible aftercare when consuming any potentially irritant substances by way of insufflation. Though the practice might at first seem daunting, it is by no means unpleasant once accustomed to the sensation and you do not need any specialised equipment or commercial solutions to practise nasal irrigation at home. We present a simple, DIY approach that has worked well for us.

Equipment

Empty mineral water bottle, with sports cap, ideally 1 litre capacity
Sea salt, coarse crystal preferred as it doesn't contain anti-caking agents

Making isotonic saline

Producing your own isotonic saline is a trivial process; add common salt to warm water at a rate of one quarter teaspoon per 8 fl. oz., or 1tsp per litre. For comfort, this should be reasonably close to body temperature.

Therefore, add a teaspoon of salt to your empty bottle, fill it about half full with hot water and shake to dissolve the salt. Top it up with cold water and you should end up with a lukewarm saline solution that feels neither especially hot not especially cold to the touch. Fit the sports cap back to the bottle.

Nasal irrigation

The actual practice of nasal lavage is far simpler and less offensive than it might sound. Placing your head over the sink, tilted to one side, insert the nozzle of the bottle into the uppermost nostril, breathe through your mouth and allow the water to pour into your nostril, whereupon it will flow through your nose and out of the other nostril. Sustain this for 20-30 seconds or as long as is comfortable. Tilt your head to the opposite side, and repeat with the other nostril. Once you've used about half the solution, blow your nose and repeat. This should help to flush out any residual grot and minimise damage to the nasal mucosa.

When to irrigate

This is largely a matter of personal taste, though we would not recommend constant or obsessive irrigation. When irrigating after insufflation, it is sensible to allow between 5 and 20 minutes after dosing for proper absorption prior to irrigating. 

In a perfect world, and especially so with any unusually aggressive substances, it may be worth irrigating 15-20 minutes after each dose, but this may prove less than practical and might do more harm than good if taken to excess. The author tends to rinse not more than twice per day; often once is sufficient. Of particular importance is to rinse not too long after the final dose of a session and before going to bed.

Disclaimer

The practice of nasal irrigation is not a panacea and does not remove all possible harms associated with insufflation. Performed correctly it reduces the extent of any damage and discomfort and is thus recommended as sensible harm reduction practice if you intend to insufflate at all, but it should not be taken as licence or as encouragement to insufflate anything that you otherwise wouldn't.
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#2
Good post, good practice, good hygiene. :) good lol
They say pain is relative, it certainly feels like a relative of mine... One that I can't get rid of.
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#3
Couple of minor things I'd add. We have pretty good water quality in the UK, but for safety it's better to keep everything as sterile as possible. So using water that's been boiled in a kettle and allowed to cool can be preferable to using water from the tap. Only make it when you need it rather than storing a big batch for later use.

I won't link it, but if you want to find out what the worst possible thing that could happen is, look up naegleriasis. (It's vanishingly rare and there's only been a single case in the UK back in 1979, but there's been recent cases affecting people using unboiled water in neti pots in certain areas of the USA.)
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#4
Been using nasal saline spray for ages - just to add some clarification re. terms / weights / measures etc -

"Isotonic" saline goes by a few other names, most commonly seen in hospitals as "Normal Saline", used for wound irrigation, in sterile form as a fluid replacement drip, as a drug diluent etc etc.; it's pretty much ubiquitous.

"Isotonic" means that it's in chemical balance with blood, and therefore rapidly absorbed and well tolerated - non-corrosive, painless when applied to wounds,  and ideal for I/V fluid replacements for unconscious patients or those unable to eat or drink (though large rapid infusions can cause complications).

The basic formula is 0.9% w/v salt to water - this means add the water to the salt, to the required volume, not the other way around.

Put as simply as possible, it equates to 9mg dry salt, with water added to 1ml total volume - the expression "w/v" means exactly that, "weight to volume".

So by extrapolation, we can use this formula to make any amount necessary.


I'm with niflheim on the water quality / quantity and storage - ideally, one would use pure, distilled (or de-ionised) water, and pure salt as >99% NaCl, lab grade, both sterile.

In reality tap water generally has various chemical or mineral salts already dissolved in it, depending on source, which boiling does little to change, concentrating them slightly if anything. Then, a quick look at the ingredients on the table salt I use personally reveals "Anti-Caking Agent E535" -  in what percentage is not stated...

Regarding quantity, I generally make 20ml at a time (180mg salt) which I put into a nasal spray bottle to "refresh" things from time to time during a session - usually I'll spray a few times before racking up, then use as necessary; not enough to cause floods of precious chemical down the throat though! It's good for helping absorbtion and reducing sting, and I'm pretty confident it acts as a protectant too. When done, or having a break, I'll have another few sprays, as at the beginning. Any solution left after a day or two gets chucked and a new batch made - easy.

With a bit of chemistry work and a few sums this could also be used as a delivery system for certain RC's - currently thinking of doing the working out for a 3-FPM spray, but instinct already hints that the required solution would be above saturation, too painful for use, or, I don't know, something else - it's the thought of getting a viable 3-FPM dose into 0.6ml of spray - I've still got to accurately measure the particular spray I have -  depends whether you're going for functional or recreational I suppose.

There are also different saline formulations for specific uses - I mention this here for the benefit of smokers / vapers - a "Hypertonic" solution, nebulised, can help with bronchial issues.

Magick - I've honestly never heard of the "nasal irrigation" procedure you describe yourself - as you say, it does indeed "seem daunting"! I'm not a great tooter of powders as a rule, so the spray method seems to work fine for me, but I'm intrigued - I'll probably get benzed up one night and drown myself trying to do it...  Thud
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#5
I don't wanna know
'Bout the things that you pull
Outta your nose
Or where they goes
But if you are wasted
From the stuff you're stickin' in it
I get madder every day
'Cause what you do 'n' what you say
Affects my life in such a way
I learn to hate it every minute!
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#6
I have the sterimar stuff. Used to use it quite a bit. Jeffed it off for a long time. My nose never bleeds, is never sore and never scabby. Til a week or so ago felt a bit sore. Few quirts daily and now seems cfompletely normal. Going to remember to use it from now on. No reason not to.
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#7
I have heard horror stories if horrible infections from improperly performed nasal irrigation which sadly means I have never used my neti pot out of fear...
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#8
(12-01-2016, 12:46 AM)only_spoons Wrote: I have heard horror stories if horrible infections from improperly performed nasal irrigation which sadly means I have never used my neti pot out of fear...

I'm guessing(but having not tried it I'm not an expert) that infection would be more likely due to using an unclean or unsterile liquid,or not cleaning it out properly. It's something I plan to try out eventually as clean nose or not it seems like a good idea. Can I ask what kind of horror stories have you heard,for example was this in India and what exactly became infected? Was it sinuses, lungs, throat?
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#9
there's also this: 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000RDZFZ0/re...J977JK7Z0C

I like to make my saline up with boiling water and let it cool using a cheap digital thermometer (£1.99 on amazon) to check when it's in the right range. It's a lot more comfortable at 36C
The solution to every problem isn't throwing acid at it, unless the problem is a solution with an overly alkaline pH
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#10
Rainbow 
Hi guys,
this is my first post in this forum and I just stumbled over this thread.
Nasal irrigation is quite common in germany.. but don't do it too often.
Especially if your nose is sore or feels thin from nasal ROA. That means not every time you snorted,
maybe once or 2 times a week, but it depends on your nose, what and how much you do.
I use HPLC grade water .. and keep everything sterile. Tap or bottle water has lots of Ca^2+/Mg^2+/SO_4^2- ions in it.
For nasal spray I use syringe filters (use the correct pore size) and I add dexpanthenol and hyaluronic acid with low mol. weight (sodium salt - sodium hyaluronate)
or buy the solution (It's called Hysan in germany- http://www.ursapharm.de/en/products/hysa...are-spray/)
I prefer to make it myself as I have the equipment available and I can use the specific low MW salt. Since I use this (as everything, not too often) ..
I never had a nosebleed .. although I'm going through 100-200 mg 3-FPM daily. It was more in my bad times .. but it's better now. And I hope I'm clean soon.

So far. I didn't want to write that much. Just mention dexpanthenol and the hyaluronic acid, because they helped my nose a great deal.
I wish everyone a good night and be strong.
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